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State ‘birther’ bill talks fuel controversy surround birthplace of president

Published: Monday, February 21, 2011

Updated: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 00:02

"No person except a natural-born citizen … shall be eligible for the Office of the President."

This one sentence in the second article of the U.S. Constitution is easily overlooked. It's a constitutional provision that may seem unlikely to elicit much controversy. But since Barack Obama's presidential campaign and subsequent election, his citizenship has been under scrutiny and doubt by some who think he wasn't born in the United States. That doubt is now making its way into state legislatures.

Nebraska, along with several other states including Texas, Arizona and Georgia, is considering a bill requiring any presidential or vice presidential candidate to prove his or her citizenship to state officials. Nebraska's bill, introduced by state senator Mark Christensen, of District 44, goes one step beyond all other bills by requiring proof of citizenship of the candidate's parents as well.

By doing so, Christensen is making additions to the requirements of the Constitution. There is no mention in the nation's founding document of presidents' parents and their citizenship. Christensen was unavailable to provide comment at press time after repeated attempts yesterday and the day before.

Nebraska's "birther" bill is the product of a national group of people, called "birthers," who believe Obama's citizenship is suspect. Obama, for his part, has made public his Hawaiian birth certificate.

Still, the idea remains that Obama was born elsewhere, perhaps in Kenya, the home of his father, or even Indonesia, where he spent part of his youth.

Christensen told the McCook Daily Gazette that two or three e-mails from constituents still concerned about Obama's birthplace was enough cause to introduce his bill. Christensen said he fully believes Obama is a citizen, but that persistent doubts only hurt the integrity of the federal government.

"This (bill) would remove that doubt," he said. "I think that it hurts Americans when we think we can't trust our leaders."

Eric Berger, a law professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, declined to be quoted but did bring attention to a 1995 U.S. Supreme Court case, U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton.

In that case, Arkansas passed legislation that established a term limit on the state's members of Congress, a limit not set forth by the U.S. Constitution. The Supreme Court decided the state's actions were unconstitutional, according to the Court's online archive, The Oyez Project, because the Constitution does not allow states to add to its requirements for federal officials.

In addition, the state's actions were unconstitutional if it has the likely effect of handicapping a class of candidates.

John Gruhl, a political science professor at UNL, spoke to the Nebraska News Service earlier this month about just that possibility.

"Parents don't have to be citizens for their children to be citizens," Gruhl said to the service. "So what's the point of this provision? To embarrass a candidate whose parents aren't citizens? To discourage a candidate from running in the first place, so his parents aren't exposed?"

Nebraska has good company in its consideration of a "birther" bill. Arizona is considering a similar bill for the second year in a row, according to Fox News.  Connecticut, Oklahoma and Missouri have also joined the effort, according to The Associated Press.

The controversy of Obama's citizenship has made unlikely allies out of some staunch Obama opponents.

Sarah Palin, former Alaska governor and Tea Party favorite, has called such suspicions and their corresponding legislation "annoying" and "distractions," according to USA TODAY.  

Karl Rove, a former political advisor to Pres. George W. Bush cautioned giving so-called "birthers" too much attention.

"Within our party, we've got to be very careful about allowing these people who are the birthers and the 9/11-deniers to get too high a profile and say too much without setting the record straight," Rove said on Fox News, according to USA TODAY.

A hearing for Nebraska's bill has been set for March 10.

compiled by dan holtmeyer, danholtmeyer@

dailynebraskan.com

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20 comments

Anonymous
Fri Feb 25 2011 13:22
What I don't understand is why the DN felt the need to rip off a story by the Nebraska News Service that was written over a week ago. Did you guys just Google "Birther bills" and use the list of news stories that came up as your sources? Maybe next time you could, IDK, go out and get YOUR OWN coverage on a bill that is being discussed less than a mile away from your own office. You know, actually do some interviews and talk to people. Oh wait... that would be considered actual journalism, which the DN doesn't seem to know much about.
Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 23:22
"10 dollars and a release to Hawaii, and Obama could end this.... if he really was eligible"
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LOL! Do you know what a lie that is? And how many times it's been debunked?

Here's just one example. Greg Lakin, Terry Lakin's brother, was on the Andrea Shea King show a couple of weeks ago.

See, it turns out that Terry Lakin's daughter was born in Hawaii. And at one point, Lakin decided to ask Hawaii for a long form of his daughter's birth certificate. And he was told in no uncertain terms that it was not possible, Hawaii no longer issued them. Terry Lakin has known for a long time that the "just-pay-the-fee" argument is a crock of BS.

Greg Lakin admitted this on a radio show. Audio files are available online if you're interested.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 22:22
10 dollars and a release to Hawaii, and Obama could end this.... if he really was eligible

You have to be pretty stupid and gullible at this point to believe he was constitutionally eligible.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 20:22
@ksdb -- "That ruling should have been appealed, but it would have only gone to the Indiana Supreme Court, not the U.S. Supreme Court."
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No, you are not telling the truth. The ruling *was* appealed to the Indiana Supreme Court, which refused to hear it. After that the next step would have been to appeal it to SCOTUS. But that wasn't done; the plaintiffs simply allowed the deadline to expire. It's too late now. How do you explain to us why no one -- literally no one -- stepped up to the plate and took it to SCOTUS, so that what you are claiming is a slam-dunk issue could easily have been settled in your favor? Did you just let it slip through your fingers? Finally, the blow of victory could have been struck and -- what happened? Did you forget? Were you too busy putting up "Where's the Birth Certificate" billboards?

Of course, it's easy on a blog to proclaim the ruling to be "an embarrassment to the judicial system." But that's just talk. The decision was unanimous, the Indiana Supreme Court refused to reconsider it, and SCOTUS wasn't even asked. And not a single reputable constitutional lawyer has spoken out against it.

The fact that you and some other birthers consider it "an embarrassment to the judicial system" doesn't hold any weight at all. The enormous body of U.S. legal opinion firmly holds that Ankeny expresses perfectly well what the current law of the land is concerning Presidential eligibility.

Mashman
Wed Feb 23 2011 18:24
I agree - this is from the Wong Kim Ark opinion - "The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen".

How people can use Wong as showing that anyone born in the US is a 'natural born Citizen', when the court clearly make a distinction between the two!

ksdb
Wed Feb 23 2011 18:14
The Ankeny V. Daniels decision is an embarrassment to the judicial system. That ruling should have been appealed, but it would have only gone to the Indiana Supreme Court, not the U.S. Supreme Court. The appellate judges embarrassed themselves by contradicting their claim of 'guidance' from the Wong Kim Ark decision. "We note the fact that the Court in Wong Kim Ark did not actually pronounce the plaintiff a ���natural born Citizen��� using the Constitution���s Article II language ..." There's a reason why the Court did not pronounce Wong Kim Ark to be a natural born citizen. He wasn't one. The court affirmed that "all children born in the country of parents who were its citizens." These are natural born citizens. Ark was not born to citizen parents. Neither was Obama.
Mashman
Wed Feb 23 2011 17:52
Mary -

The reason no one wants to touch this is quite simple. Barak Obama was the first serious black presidential candidate (I'm not counting Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Alan Keyes as serious candidates). What would have happened if he was disqualified, on what undoubtedly the entire left, and black community, would have considered a technicality? There would most likely have been riots! For that reason alone, the Republicans won't touch this with a 10ft pole.

This actually is what I hold against Obama. He KNEW this! He knew he wasn't constitutionaly eligible to hold the office of President - yet he ran anyway. He relied on the belief that the Republicans would not bring this issue up, for fear of what would happen.

I'm white, but I do have a number of black friends, and relatives. My brother-in-law is black, and has made the point in the past, that he has had to work twice as hard in the past to prove to people, that he earns his rewards and doesn't have them handed to him because he's black. Republicans have the same issue. The left already potrays the right as a bunch of racists - what would happen if they disqualified a black presidential candidate?

BUT I DON'T CARE!! I spent my time time in the Marine Corps. and was ready to die for my country. Did you? And what is ment when someone uses the term - 'my country'? Is that the government? Is it the land inside the borders? Is it the people? Not to me. To me, it's that which makes the US unique, special, and great - it's the Constitution! That is what I would die for! That is what America is!

The left may think that the Constitution is just an old piece of paper - but not me! It IS America! And God willing, there are enough people like me, who are patriotic enough to see this thru, and insure that the Constitution is not cast aside as the worthless piece of paper that you Mary, and Obama believe it to be.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 17:39
@GrandeMe -- You're claiming that the fact that a bill didn't pass proves something? Hey, I think I got a bridge you might wanna buy.

Why don't you name some real constitutional experts who agree with you? And why don't you tell us why no Constitutional scholars have voiced disagreement with the unanimous ruling in Ankeny v. Governor, which said: "Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are ���natural born Citizens��� for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."

Do you know, the decision wasn't even appealed to the Supreme Court? I guess the plaintiffs realized they didn't have a chance -- and didn't want SCOTUS to go on record with what the rest of the legal community knows full well.

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 17:31
I don't know why anyone would worry about the laws being passed. It will just prove that the birthers got it all wrong with obama.
I don't understand how this could be the slightest of problems for obama, or why people would hope it gets "stricken down." I mean, if you support obama, really support him, you can clearly see how this will actually help him.
GrandeMe
Wed Feb 23 2011 16:29
Jame Inhofe, Mary Landrieu and former OK Senator Don Nickles would presume to interpret the Constitution (which is a violation of the constitution itself) and proffer a bill (108th Congress, 2nd Session S.2128.IS) reducing to a minimum the qualifications for eligibility for the Office of President as any person born in or out of the United States as long as one parent is a citizen.

the bill was not passed. It does compel one to question why two Oklahoma senators and one Louisiana senator would attempt to pass such a bill that invites and allows foreigners, in the very sense of the word, with loyalty and allegiance to another country, culture or ideology, to attain the highest office in our great nation.

Had the bill passed, Obama would have met the criteria he is being challenged on today. That it didn���t, proves he does not and never did meet the ���natural born Citizen��� status as required in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.

ksdb
Wed Feb 23 2011 16:27
mary, no court is going to strike down any law that complies with their own rulings in Minor v. Happersett and U.S. v Wong Kim Ark. Justice Gray, in the latter ruling, noted that the Supreme Court was " committed to the view that all children born in the United States of citizens or subjects of foreign States were excluded from the operation of the first sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment .." IOW, if your citizenship is dependent on the 14th amendment, you are not a natural born citizen as the court defined it (born in the United States of citizens). In Obama's case, he can't even legally prove he was born in the USA, so it's not clear if he was born a citizen or naturalized later in life.
Parlorcity
Wed Feb 23 2011 16:24
***Rep. John Bingham of Ohio, considered the father of the Fourteenth Amendment, confirms the understanding and construction the framers used in regards to birthright and jurisdiction while speaking on civil rights of citizens in the House on March 9, 1866:

[I] find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen���[6] ��� Source: 14thamendment.us

Mary
Wed Feb 23 2011 16:04
Sorry birfers but it doesn't matter how many times you say it or how you try to twist court cases. A natural born citizen is simply a person born a US citizen rather than naturalized.

They can either be born on US soil or born abroad to a US citizen (meeting certain residency requirements).

Even if birther bills such as this one pass, they will be struck down by the courts.

It will be such fun to see your little pinheads explode!

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 14:14
The idea that Obama is not a natural born citizen because his father was not a U.S. citizen is a complete fabrication. Not a single soul even mentioned it prior to the 2008 election!

If the Constitution required two citizen parents for a presidential candidate, it would have been a simple matter for his primary opponents -- like, for example, Hillary Clinton -- or his general election opponents, like John McCain, to raise it as an issue. Or for a single member of Congress to have used it as a basis for contesting the vote of the Electoral College. Not a single one did. There isn't even a reputable law journal article arguing that point of view. It's coming only from those looking to disqualify Obama based on their personal and/or political opinions about him.

The birthers were happy to rely on their false claims about the birth certificate until they realized too late that it was a dead end, at which point many of them switched to the bogus two-citizen-parent theory.

But there is no legal basis for it. We were all taught growing up that anyone born in the United States can be elected president after meeting the age and residency requirements. Birthers are pretending the law is on their side but, to their misfortune, they have been having difficulty finding real constitutional scholars who agree with them.

Mashman
Wed Feb 23 2011 12:04
"By doing so, Christensen is making additions to the requirements of the Constitution. There is no mention in the nation's founding document of presidents' parents and their citizenship. "

Yes there IS, it's clearly there! It's the term 'natural born Citizen'!

This is from Vattel's 'The Law of Nations' section 212 - "The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."!

They writers on the Constitution didn't explicitly define the term in the Constitution, because it was self evident to them.

And as a little coincidence, if you want proof that they were familiar with Vattel - remember last year the story about George Washington, and the overdue library book? Guess what book it was? That's right! Vattel's 'The Law of Nations'!

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 12:00
Good article except for your failure to adequately explain a couple of things.
1). In order to be President one must be a NATURAL BORN Citizen which is a different class of Citizenship than simply being a Citizen. To be a NATURAL BORN Citizen one does INDEED need two Citizen parents = That eliminates Obama at the first step.
2). One must be born in the USA or its territories.
This requirement to be a NATURAL BORN Citizen is different from the requirement of simply being a Citizen as is the case for a Representative or a Senator.
It is astounding to me that any in public office do not know this (and that the writer did not research this article enough to know it either. The information is readily available from reputable on-line sources (including Supreme Court decisions rendered.
ELmo
Mashman
Wed Feb 23 2011 11:54
Why do 'birth' articles always state that 'birthers' question Obama's citizenship? I don't question his citizenship, nor do I question his birthplace. Yet I'm a birther.

Every article of this type always states that 'birthers' don't believe Obama is a citizen, or was born in Hawaii - most if not all 'birthers' I know believe both - but he is still not a 'natural born citizen'. Obama can not be a 'natural born citizen' because his father was never a US citizen, nor even domiciled in the US - he was here on a student visa.

Why is the term NBC in the Constitution? It's there because the office of President is also Commander in Chief of the US military. The framers wanted control of the government to be in the hands of the people, They wanted to limit the chance of someone rising to the office of POTUS, who had ties to a foriegn government. So they added the NBC requirement.

The term 'natural born Citizen' (notice Citizen is capitalized in the Constitution - and yes that's important, it means it's a proper noun, they didn't just capitalize words randomly!), is never defined in the Constitution, because it was felt that it was necessary, it was well know to the writers. The term was understood as defined in Vattels 'Law of Nations' (sect 212), to be a person born on the soil of a country to citizen parents.

So, to be a 'natural born Citizen', as the writers of the Constitution understood it, required that a person be born on US soil, to parents who were already US citizens.

Name one other president who had a non-citizen parent, who was also not a citizen at the time the Constitution was written. There has never been one (I know about Chester A. Arthur, there were/are suspicions about his father, but he destroyed all of his person documents shortly before his death, so the truth could never be revealed. hiding/destroying documents - sounds familiar!).

Obama CAN NOT be a 'natural born Citizen' because his father was not a US citizen. But the left believe, as a recent Washington Post writer recently wrote, the Constitution really doesn't matter because it's old, and no longer applies.

People, like the author of this story, can obfuscate the facts, by changing the issue into something else, like Obama is not eligible because he was not born in the US, or he's not eligible because he's not a citizen, instead of writing the simple FACT, Obama is not eligible because his father was not, and had no intention ever of becoming, an US citizen!

rcNkc
Wed Feb 23 2011 11:07
Dan Holtmeyer - you are misleading your readers. Please re read Constitution. There are two types of
citizenship for POTUS and Senators. POTUS = Nat. Born Citizen , Senator= Citizen .. Please explain the
difference between the two diff. requirments. Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing !!
Their exemption for not being NBC is right there to read also. Why did they not meet NBC ??
Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 10:51
Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884)
Decided November 3, 1884
Page 112 U. S. 98

MR. JUSTICE GRAY delivered the opinion of the Court...The distinction between citizenship by birth and citizenship by naturalization is clearly marked in the provisions of the Constitution, by which

���No person, except a natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution shall be eligible to the office of President,���

and ���The Congress shall have power to establish an uniform rule of naturalization.��� Constitution, Article II, Section 1; Article I, Section 8. By the Thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution, slavery was prohibited. The main object of the opening sentence of the Fourteenth Amendment was to settle the question, upon which there had been a difference of opinion throughout the country and in this Court, as to the citizenship of free negroes ( 60 U. S. 73; Strauder v. West Virginia,@ 100 U. S. 303, 100 U. S. 306.

This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are ���all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.��� The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized [end quote]

IOW...born on US soil & NOT owing allegiance to any foreign nation or sovereign at the time of birth. Read the congressional archives. The debates spell in out in black & white, not "Gray's" WKA decision that went back to English law instead of American law while also disregarding treaties that were in palce at the time. Here is English law pertaining to the term "citizen" from "Judicial and statutory definitions of words and phrases(1904)" - received in the Harvard Law Library Jan 13, 1925:

[I]n England, birth in the country was alone sufficient to make any one a subject Even a villein or a slave born within the King's allegiance is according to the principles of the common law a subject, but it never can be admitted that he is a citizen. One may, no doubt, be a citizen by birth as well as a subject, but subject and citizen are evidently words of different import, and it indisputably requires something more to make a citizen than it does to make a subject. It is, in fact, not the place of a man's birth, but the rights and privileges he may be entitled to enjoy, which make him a citizen.[end quote]

Anonymous
Wed Feb 23 2011 10:18
Depends on what a "natural born citizen", as opposed to a regular citizen, is.

Most definitions of "natural born citizen" are that such a citizen had two citizen parents, to avoid foreign entanglements and dual citizenship, which could mean dual loyalties.

So asking a candidate to show that he is a "natural born citizen" is constitutional.

Or shall we amend Article 2, to state that mere residency is the qualifier?







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