‘Ask an Atheist’ attracts fewer challengers, more curious listeners

By Jacy Marmaduke

Published: Thursday, October 27, 2011

Updated: Monday, October 31, 2011

Less than 15 minutes into the fourth annual "Ask an Atheist" panel, the discussion had already shifted to death.

It may seem like a heavy topic for a Thursday evening. But for the four Secular Humanists of the University of Nebraska-Lincoln members sitting on a panel designed to answer questions about atheism, it was just another talking point.

"You see lots of death in nature," said member Emily Zahn, a junior biological sciences major who sat on the panel for the first time. "It's just what happens. I view death as an entirely natural process. It's a fact: We are all going to die. It might be painful, it might not. It's just the end of a life."

And they were just getting started. From 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday, the panel members answered questions about the origins and nature of their beliefs. They spoke about love, fossil records and everything in between.

About 50 people attended the event in the Nebraska Union auditorium, not including the SHUNL members who patrolled the room with note cards on which attendees could write questions.

For the first time, the second hour of the event consisted of one-on-one and small group discussion between SHUNL members and audience members.

 

"We got a lot of good questions and we answered them well," Zahn said. "Obviously we're not here to convert people; it's more just to bring understanding. And I think we accomplished that."

There were "surprisingly few Bible quotes" in audience questions, according to moderator and senior English major Neal Gebhard, but the conversation soon turned to Christianity and miracles. Panelists had a succinct response to those questions, however: Don't always believe what you see.

"Just because we don't know how to explain some kind of testimony, it seems kind of a stretch to jump to a supernatural explanation," said Michael Milone, a senior psychology and philosophy major and vice president of SHUNL. "That should be the last resort."

The meaning of life was also a frequent discussion point for the panelists, who said they don't seek out significance in a celestial being.

"I don't see how life could be pointless," said first-time panelist Ethan Van Winkle, a senior physics and math major. "Every single action that I do affects the total of everything. Everything that you're doing is affecting something in some way."

Van Winkle's sister, Heather Poore, attended the event although she is Christian. She was one of many audience members seeking a greater understanding of atheism rather than an arena for argument.

"If I ever want to understand and appreciate what he thinks, I have to step out of my comfort zone," said Poore, who graduated from UNL in 2002 with a degree in elementary education. "I have a very sheltered existence, and I like it that way, but I also have to step out of that."

But not all audience members felt they gained something from the discussion.

"I just wanted to see if there were any plausible arguments," said Matt Simmons, a focus missionary with the Newman Center. "There weren't. It seemed to me to be more of a sense of rebellion."

According to the panelists, though, their beliefs revolve less around rebellion against the beliefs with which they were raised and more around personal fulfillment.

"It's nice to know that all of my accomplishments and all of my failures are my own, not part of some plan," said Kate Miller, a sophomore philosophy major, SHUNL president and returning panelist.

And when the discussion shifted to morality, the panelists were ready to answer a frequently asked question: As an atheist, where does your sense of morality come from?

"I don't value (morality) because someone has said that it's good." Milone said. "I don't value it because it was written somewhere. I value it because it makes the world a better place. It gives everyone a shot at well-being."

jacymarmaduke@dailynebraskan.com

Comments

14 comments
Anonymous
Mon Oct 31 2011 23:54
and if you do your research...some of our founding fathers were atheist :o)
jenny
Mon Oct 31 2011 23:51
MQ...you posted right after i replied to LOL.
first of all, i can also respond by saying there are also many ways to argue against the existence of god and no way to prove god's existence. and no, there's not cold, hard, tangible scientific PROOF that god exists, so don't try to tell me there is proof he does. and like i said before...the burden of proof is on someone trying to prove to me something does exist.
secondly, all the examples you've listed above are prime examples of things people and societies have done in the name of RELIGION/GOD (slavery, human sacrifice, genocide, etc.)...so that only enhances my point further. you don't see atheists going around causing wars in the name of some god, making human/animal sacrifices, treating women like garbage, etc. they (with the exception of some, i'm sure, because there are boneheads in every group) treat people the way they would want to be treated because they want to and for the good of mankind, not to earn brownie points so they don't have to spend eternity in hell...they don't believe we're here until something better comes along for eternity, they believe this is their ONLY time, so they'd better make the best of it.

So to answer your questions...humans have an inherent notion of what is right and what is wrong. Like I said...most of the stuff you listed above has been done in the name of god/religion, so I don't see how it helps your argument.

jenny
Mon Oct 31 2011 23:36
burden of proof is on those who believe there IS a god. secondly, christianity is the mainstream religion around here, so that's what people tend to use as an example, rather than saying, "christians, mormons, jews, muslims, etc, etc, etc" to preface everything. you assume, LOL, that god DOES exist, yet you cannot prove it, nor can you put together grammatically correct sentences...so before you start calling atheists idiots, there's a little something to think about :) just sayin'. i don't hate christians or people of any other religion, all i'm saying is, whichever religion you chose to believe as truth, you should follow wholeheartedly, even if doing so will land you in the slammer. it's b.s. that people get to pick and choose which parts of their religion society deems appropriate to practice for fear of ending up in jail. it's hypocritical. OH...and Nobel Prize winners in the sciences who believe in a god are not, by any means, the majority.
Moral Question
Mon Oct 31 2011 23:26
Jenny "maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't...there's certainly no proof one DOES exist." Actually there is proof. Besides this is ducking the issue. After all the issue is how can a atheist prove that God DOESN'T exist? There are many ways to argue for the existence of God and no way to prove God's nonexistence.
Nor wasn't aware that the issue was being decent as a way to avoid going to hell, this seems like a display of a lack of understanding on your part. While I agree that people should be decent to others and moral in their thoughts and deeds. I wonder: whose morality? Who is the authority concerning whats right or wrong? If I believe in human sacrifices and you don't who is wrong? If you believe in cannibalism and I don't whose right and whose wrong? As for society teaching us what is right what if society approves of slavery? Should you? If your parents and school teach you that it is right to enslave others just because they are different and inferior then does that make it right?
When our country was formed its founders stated that we had certain God-given rights like life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
If we should decide to ignore God and in the fashion of the moment decide to arbitrarily deny others their life or their freedom is that moral, is that right, just because we or our society determine it to be?
That's why we need an higher authority. That why we can't be a law onto ourselves.
LOL
Mon Oct 31 2011 22:55
I thought atheism is about not believing in God its seems from these entries that its more about hating Christians based on irrational and ignorant prejudices. You do notice that in none of my entries have I once referred to being a Christian. Belief in God involves various religions besides Christianity such as Judaism, and Islam to name a few and yet out of blind irrational hatred you assume I refer to Christianity. In fact you anti-Christians seem to be the only ones to bring up the subject of Christianity. This is all so amusing. Nor do you once deal with the fact that atheism is untenable as a philosophy You assume that God doesn't exist and yet you can not prove this. Its impossible for you to do so.
If you are atheists you seem to have proven my point: atheists are stupid
Anonymous
Sun Oct 30 2011 22:58
About the Nobel prize winning chemist believing in God: 1) that is a direct quote, you should cite it, 2) versions of that appear on several religious websites, of course they are going to latch onto such a quote, 3) just because a Nobel prize winning chemist said that does not make atheists idiots, 4) many scientists are not theists or even deists, and they would not agree with such a quote, and 5) I don't imply you are an idiot for your beliefs, you should not imply that I am.
jenny
Sun Oct 30 2011 22:46
"a lot of things even the very best christian american does, in another religion, would send that person to hell."

should be...

"a lot of things even the very best christian american does, in another religion OR SOCIETY, would send that person to hell."

jenny
Sun Oct 30 2011 22:43
first of all, this article doesn't 'prove' anything...especially not that atheism is 'intellectually moronic'. secondly, i'm with 'anonymous' on the fact that we can be decent to each other without the threat of going to 'hell'. we gain our ideas and perceptions of what is right and what is wrong by the society surrounding us...a lot of things even the very best christian american does, in another religion, would send that person to hell. maybe there is a god, maybe there isn't...there's certainly no proof one DOES exist. believe what you want and if it makes you ultimately a better person, more power to you. but as mentioned previously...people following most religions are extremely hypocritical. in my opinion, if you're going to call yourself a christian, you need to follow ALL parts of the bible, not just pick and choose the parts you like (there's a LOT in the old testament you could get the death penalty for following or spend a LOT of time in the slammer for, but that shouldn't bother you because that's the book you live your life by!), it's all what god wants, right?
Anonymous
Sun Oct 30 2011 00:29
In response to the question, "Many prominent scientists - including Darwin, Einstein, and Planck - have considered the concept of God very seriously. What are your thoughts on the concept of God and on the existence of God?" American Nobelist in Chemistry (1972) Christian B. Anfinsen (1916-1995) replied:

"I think only an idiot can be an atheist. We must admit that there exists an incomprehensible power or force with limitless foresight and knowledge that started the whole universe going in the first place." - 1972 Nobel Prize for Chemistry

LOL
Sat Oct 29 2011 19:33
Why free thinker you seem to be a God onto yourself, a legend in your own mind. You just automatically know what is right. No need for an infallible source of truth with you around. Why you sound perfect in every way. How do you know I am a Christian? After all I could be Jewish or a Muslim or one of the many other faiths that recognize and acknowledge their to be a supreme deity. Because you have assumed the mantle of God do you claim to be Godlike, all seeing and all knowing? If so then you are sadly mistaken and very funny.
LOL
Sat Oct 29 2011 19:24
John S makes absolutely no sense. If you valve it because someone said it and you value it because someone wrote it. Then maybe you believe anything you hear or read. Then you better decide for yourself were to draw the line
Anonymous
Sat Oct 29 2011 17:50
I am a free thinker . I don't have to have anyone tell me to value morality . It's instinct that I know to be kind , to do the "right thing" in life . I haven't been brainwashed into the belief of doing the "right thing" because of being threatened
of the possibility of going to "hell" . It's the so called "Christians" that speak badly of others, as LOL . above. No one needs to tell me to do the right thing , I have been persecuted throughout life for having my own religious free beliefs, by the hypocritical christian society . I respect others even if they don't have my beliefs , some people Need that crutch to say , good or bad , "It's Gods will ". When are people going to take on the responsibility for their own actions and well being and realize there is no other "supreme being" ? Be the Good person because it's human way.
John S.
Fri Oct 28 2011 20:53
The last comment here makes absolutely no sense. If you don't value it because someone has said it, and you don't value it because someone has written it ....Then who decides where to draw the line that will make this world a better place???
LOL
Fri Oct 28 2011 10:41
Atheism is stupid, It rest on unsound principals, its intellectually moronic. This article proves this.
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